TURNER FAMILY HISTORY

 

 

 

A brief history of the Turner line from the first settlers to our

present time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ernest E. Turner

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First Edition, 1998


PREFACE

 

No family history is ever complete.  There will always be additions, error corrections and information not available at the time the original was printed.  If you have any of this information please forward to Ernest Turner, PO Box 61, Lerose, Ky  41344.  Any change will be announced in the Turner newsletter.

 

INTRODUCTION

 

A note about the numbering of pages.  Each chapter is given a letter and within that chapter the pages are numbered 1, 2, 3, etc.  This is planned so that if new information is found about a particular generation a person it can be added to the original edition. 

Most information on the Turner line was obtained from the genealogical research center at the Breathitt County  Library at Jackson, Ky.   I wish to thank many friends and relatives who also sent me information on our ancestors.

This is a private family publication and is intended for the private use and is not for sale or publication.

I wish to thank Bertha Noble, Lerose, who proofread the original and provided family tree information. I wish to thank Bradley Turner who keyed the history, and who has maintained it on his computer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

TABLE OF CONTENTS

 

A.  Direct Turner Line

B.  John Turner

C.  William the Quaker

C.  William's Family Group Sheet

D.  Thomas Turner (Son of William the Quaker)

E.  Roger Sr

E.  Three of Roger Sr's Family Group Sheets

E.  Turner extracts from Wilkes Co, NC Records

E.  Map of Yakin Co NC

E.  Daniel Boone and Roger Turner Sr

E.  Roger Turner and Elizabeth Bryan Family Group Sheet

F.  Thomas Turner (Father of Revolutionary War Roger)

F   Thomas Turner Jr (Side Bar)

F.  Two of Thomas Turner's Group Sheets

G.  Revolutionary War Roger

G.  Roger Turner Pension

G.  Marriage records of Roger Turner and Sarah Speed

H.  Edward Turner

H.  Edward Turner's War Muster Roll

H.  Edward Turner's Family Group Sheet

I.   Thomas H. (Humpy) Turner

I.   Marriage of Thomas H. Turner and Mary Johnson

I.  Thomas H. Turner Children

J.  Civil War Jesse

J.  Jesse Turner's Family Tree

J.  Jesse Turner 1880 Breathitt Co. Census

J.  Who was Fannie Estepp

K.  1900 Breathitt Co. Census

K.  1920 Breathitt Co. Census

K.  John Turner and Elizabeth Deaton's Marriage Record

K.  Riding the Rafts

K.  Elizabeth Deaton (Venison's Mother)

K.  John Turner's Picture (Only Known Photograph)

L.  Venison Turner

L.  Venison's Census Record

L.  Venison and Sarah Marriage License

L.  Venison's Minister's Certificate

L.  Venison's Discharge

L.  Venison's Work Record


L.  List of Venison's Children

L.  Sarah Herald

L.  Sarah Herald Picture

M. The Charley Turner Story

M.  Charley Turner Baseball Team

M.  News article about Charley Turner

M.  Charley and Margie's Marriage License

M.  Margaret Ann Campbell

M.  Ann Colwell's Two Marriage Certificates

M.  Campbell Family Tree

M.  Various Pictures


 

 

 

 

 

 

A

 

Direct Turner Line

 

John Turner

 

William Turner (It is unknown who he married)

 

Thomas Turner  Married Susan Anthony

 

Roger Turner Sr (1689-1778) Married Elizabeth Bryan

 

Thomas Turner (1730-1809) Married Charity Swain

 

Roger Turner (Revolutionary War Roger) (1757-1845) Married Sarah Speed

 

Edward Turner (1781-1850)  Married Sally Buttrey

 

Thomas (Humpy) Turner    Married Mary Johnson

 

Jesse Turner (Civil War Veteran)  Married Fanny Estepp

 

John Turner (Baptist Minister) Married Elizabeth Deaton

 

Venison Turner (Pentecostal Minister) Married Sarah Herald

 

Charley Turner Married Margaret Ann Campbell

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

A

 

Where the Turner name may have come from:

The name "Turner" first appeared in English records in 1275.  There are three possible sources for the derivation of the name.  The commonly suggested derivation is the occupation.

A turner is a person whose work is to form articles with a lathe.  Many different materials were used: wood, metal, bone, and clay.  The name may also have come from the occupation of milling.  The other possible derivation of the name is from a place in Normandy, Le Tournoir

(that is French for  "the Black Tower").  Another possibility is from the practice of noblemen who would send out peasants in front of the hunters to make game birds fly up, hence (turner).

The probability is that some Turner families took their name from the one source and  others from the other source.  This would mean that not all persons named Turner are, when their lineage is traced to the beginning point, related.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

B

 

Is there a John aboard?

 

The name "Turner" appears on the Mayflower passenger list.  Not likely our direct line.  It appears on ship passenger lists in Virginia in 1622, 1642, and 1653, as well as in other early years of the colonization of America.

The earliest Turner in our line that any group has been able to trace is a John Turner, who lived in Virginia.  No one has been able to prove this for sure.  Some speculate.  We have not been able to determine when and where he was born.  It seems reasonable to suppose that he was born in the "old country" and that his birth occurred near the end of the sixteenth century (late 1500's).  According to ship passenger lists, there was a John Turner and an "E" Turner who came to Virginia in 1653.  Incidentally, there was also and Elizabeth Turner who came in the same year.  But, then who was she?

If John was our first ancestor, he was the father of an Edward or some groups claim a William.

            The John Turner on the Mayflower passenger list(not likely our ancestor) and his two sons died in one of the bad winters in Plymouth Colony.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

C.

 

William the Quaker,

William was the son of John.  Some groups claim that our line is through Edward who was married to Catherine Carter.  Edward was William's son.  Edward's brother Thomas was our line.  Some groups want to go directly from William to Roger who married Elizabeth Bryan, but our research indicates that Roger was William's grandson, therefore our next ancestor was Thomas.   William's children were among the original members of the Concord Monthly Meeting of Friends (Quakers), in Chester County, PA. We don't know William's birth date.  He lived in Surry Co, NC in 1740. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

D.

 

Thomas Turner (Son of William the Quaker)

Thomas was born in 1667 and died in 1774.  He married Susan Anthony in 1689.  Thomas was born in Pennsylvania. 

Thomas moved to Virginia and to Rowan Co, NC.  He had three sons at the time.  They were Edward, Roger, and Thomas.

Roger, Edward and Thomas lived with the Boones and Bryans until about 1734.  Then with Squire Boone and others went down  the Great Wagon Road, through the Shenandoah Valley to Morgan Bryan's Quaker Settlement on Opequon Creek, Frederick Co, VA.

About 1754 they went to NC and settled in Bryan's settlement which was made of : Morgan Bryan; Squire Boone; William and John Linville; George Farbush; James Hughes; James Carter; Roger, Edward, and Thomas Turner; most of whom were related to Morgan Bryan.

Thomas's children married:

Roger Turner to Elizabeth Bryan

Edward Turner to Ann Kimbrough

Thomas to Mary Boone

Roger was our next direct line ancestor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

E.

 

Roger Sr.

Roger Turner Sr was born in 1689 in Pennsylvania and was married to Elizabeth Bryan (Daniel Boone's Aunt).  He died in 1778 in NC.  He married in Surry Co, NC.  He also died in Surry Co.

Court records in 1763 show that Roger and probably his brother Thomas helped Daniel Boone build a road to Salisbury, NC.

The entry reads:

12 July 1763, On motion it is ordered that a wagon road the best and nearest and best way from the shallow ford upon the Yadkin River to the town of Salisbury and the following persons are appointed to lay off and mark the same, to wit: Samuel Bryan, Morgan Bryan, James Bryan, Roger Turner, Matthew Sparks, Edward Roberts, Daniel Boon, Barnet Stagner, David Johnston, James McMahan, Robert Forbush and Thomas Turner and according they appear notice and be qualified before the nearest magistrate, for their faithful discharge of their office.

Roger Sr and his children between 1755 and 1761 obtained more than 2000 acres of land on both sides of the Yadkin River near the Shallow Ford.

Roger Sr lived on what was called Turner's Creek.

Between 1755 and 1765 he received two granville grants for 700 acres.

The opposite pages are extracts from Wilkes Co, NC records showing some of the activities of Roger Sr and his children.

None of these activities listed is likely to be Roger Sr grandson Revolutionary War Roger.

Roger and Elizabeth at one time when living in the Yadkin River lived on the next property to D. Boone.  At last account one of the old chimneys from Boone's house is still standing.  This place is on the Yadkin about 20 miles from Boone, NC.

The next three pages show three different researchers opinion on Roger Sr's background.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 


E.

 

Daniel Boone and Roger built a road together and lived in the same area.

Boone shortly left the area.  From 1769-1771 he was gone hunting in Kentucky.  In 1773 he started to Kentucky and turned back.  In 1775 he moved his family to Kentucky.  Roger Sr stayed in North Carolina.

 

 

Preacher Soelle visits Roger Sr:

North Carolina Historical Commission records shows that a preacher Soelle visited Roger Turner Sr, in 1773.  He states that Roger was the oldest man in the neighborhood and that he was 84 and blind.

 

 

Roger Sr's will:

The will of Roger Turner Sr.,  filed in Rowan County is dated Feb 2, 1775 and was probated at the November term of court in 1778.  It mentions his wife Elisabeth, sons Elias, Robert, Thomas and Roger; daughters Hannah and Mary and Mary; and grandson Roger, son of Thomas.

The Thomas listed last was our next direct ancestor and then his son Roger (Revolutionary War Roger).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


F.

 

Thomas Turner 1731-1806 (Son of Roger Sr and father of Revolutionary War Roger)

 

Thomas was born in 1731 in Wilkes Co and was married to Charity Swain and later to a second wife.                                                               

Thomas's children were; Jane, John, Roger(Ours), Thomas (see side bar) and Edward.

Some groups list also Abraham, James, and Reuben.  These may have been from a second wife.

Thomas was in his 40's at the time of the Revolutionary War.  We have no record of his serving.  We know that his son Roger and Thomas served.  This is about all we know.  He died in 1806.

 

 

 

Side Bar

 

Thomas Turner Jr, son of Thomas and brother to Revolutionary War Roger was born in 1760 in North Carolina, and married Mary Buchner.

In Breathitt Co, in 1840, Thomas is listed as 83 years old and a Revolutionary War soldier.

Some groups that are doing research claim that Thomas Jr was our ancestor directly and the father of Edward who came to Breathitt Co and that Roger was not Edward's father.  However, most groups trace our line from Thomas Sr to Revolutionary War Roger and then to Breathitt Co Edward.

Until this matter is cleared we claim Roger instead of his brother Thomas Jr.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


G.

 

Revolutionary War Roger Turner (Son of Thomas Sr)

 

Roger Turner was born in 1757 in North Carolina and died in 1845 in Breathitt Co., Ky. 

Roger married 17 November 1799 in Wilkes Co, North Carolina to Sarah Speed.  Roger served in the Revolutionary War.

On the next pages are copies of his request for a pension and his marriage records.

Revolutionary  War Roger had  six    children that lived to adulthood.  They were Jesse, Thomas, Elizabeth, Roger, David, and Edward.

See enclosed chart starting with Roger Sr.

Roger arrived in Kentucky between 1820 and 1830 to live with his son Thomas.  Thomas had arrived earlier and had purchased land on Turkey Creek in Breathitt Co on 5-18-1822.

Thomas was a brother to Edward (ours) who settled on the Middle Fork River at the mouth of Elsom Creek.

Edward may be buried on Sebastian Branch, Breathitt Co.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


H.

 

Edward Turner

Edward Turner was born in 1781 in North Carolina and died in 1850 in Kentucky.  He was married to Sally Buttrey (born 1787) in North Carolina.  She was the daughter of Timothy Buttrey and Mary Allen Buttrey.  They married 5-5-1805 in Wilkes Co., N.C.

Their children were Mary, John, Thomas (Humpy), Edward, Sally, Nancy, and Elizabeth.

Edward dammed up the river at themouth of Elsom Creek and had a mill that sawed logs and ground corn.                                                                                                                                          He made his living farming and logging.                                                                                             Some groups claim that Edward was in the War of 1812.  He would have been 31 at the time.  We have found proof that an Edward was in the service.  Most think he was ours. (See Edward's war record).

Edward moved to Breathitt County about the same time that his brother Thomas did.

Edward and Sally were the parents of Thomas (Humpy) Turner, the next in our direct line.   Edward is supposedly buried on his old farm, the present day farm of Harlan Bowling, located a short distance up the highway above the mouth of Elsom.  Their graves have been destroyed, but a few markers remain.

It appears that Edward Turner who came to Breathitt Co and settled at the mouth of Elsom did serve in the War of 1812.  He served 19 days from February 9, 1815 to March 9, 1815.  See Attached muster roll and payroll.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

I.

 

Thomas H. (Humpy) Turner

 

Thomas was born in 1812 in Breathitt Co and was married on 9-24-1833 to Mary (Polly) Johnson who died 5-20-1853 at the age of 39.  Polly was the daughter of Robert and Rachel Helton Johnson and she lived on Longs Creek.

Thomas was the father of our Jesse.

He also had a Timothy, Elliott, Edward, John, Wilburn, Mary Paschal, Shadrach (Shade) and Rachel.   See previous ancestor chart.

 

1850 Breathitt Co. Census:

284 Thomas H 38 NC

Polly                 35

Jesse                15

Timothy          13

Elliott                11

Edward            9

John                 7

Wilburn            5

Mary                4

Paschal(M)      3

Shadrach         1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

J.

Civil War Jesse

Jesse Turner(1835-1885) married Fannie Estepp and is buried at the Bob Turner Cemetery on Longs Creek in Breathitt Co. 

Grandfather Venison  said that his grandfather Jesse sold a hollow of land at Buckhorn containing over a hundred acres for a milk cow and a rifle.

I have run across one story about a mountain man selling his land for a rifle and a dog.

I have not been able to confirm this story yet.

Grandpa Venison said the Fannie (Jesse's wife) was a full-blooded Cherokee Indian.  We don't know for sure.

A Dana Vaughn thinks Fannie is the Fannah listed in the Clay Co census as the daughter of Joseph.

Jesse apparently was a private in the 14th Kentucky Volunteer Cavalry, Company K.  He enrolled on Dec 3, 1862.  He was mustered in June 15, 1863 at Lexington, Ky for a 1 year period.

Company K of the 14 Cavalry was commanded by Captain William Strong.  Edward Marcum was a 1stLt and Nimrod McIntosh was a 2dLt. and William Little was a sergeant.

Jesse was listed on the roll as mustered out Jan 29, 1864 to Booneville, Ky.

His name is listed under the Deserted column.

Also on Jan 28, 1864 a Hogin Hocker is listed as deserted to Booneville, Ky.

We are still researching to see if this was or was not our Jesse.  Company I also had a Jesse Turner listed as deserted and served one day under Captain Amis.  Amis and Strong had a feud later.

Grandpa Venison said that his father John (Jesse's Son) had to leave Breathitt Co (Long's Creek) because of the trouble after the Civil War when Captain Bill Strong was involved in a feud with the Amis clan.

Venison said he thought that Jesse was still on good terms with Captain Bill and rode with him after the Civil War during the period of trouble in Breathitt Co with the Ku Klux Klan or home guard.

A good source of information on this is John Ed Pearce Days of Darkness, The Feuds of Eastern Kentucky, copyright 1994, University of Ky Press.

Grandpa Venison said that his grandfather left Breathitt Co and moved to a hollow on Cow Creek where Venison was born.  The hollow is located along Estill McIntosh's church on Cow Creek across the hill from Long's Creek.

At any rate, Jesse is buried on Long's Creek.

See attached list of Jesse and Fannie's children prepared by Betty Estepp.  A note: most say that Joel was the baby.  See the 1880 attached Breathitt Co census.

Venison said he believed that Fannie's parents were Joel Estepp and a Hall.  We are still working on Jesse's wife's line.

Joel said that most of Jesse's brothers were involved in some way in the Civil War.  We are still working on this.


 

 

Jesse Turner (1880 Breathitt Co Census)

Jesse                45

Fannie              38

Sallie                19

Polly                 16

Martha J           13

Shadrach         11

Rachel            8

`           John                 6

Elliott                4

Timothy          2

Female            2/12

 

1890 Census

Jesse                B. 9/35

Fannie              B. 5/39

Anne                B. 4/1878

Joel                  B. May 1879

 

 

Who was Fannie Estepp?

Fannie was the wife of our Jesse (Civil War).  Little is known of her.

She was born May 13, 1839 and died April 14, 1922.  She is buried beside Jesse at the Bob Turner cemetery.

Venison always said that Fannie's father was Joel Estepp and that her mother was a Hall.  He claims that Hall was a full bloodied Cherokee Indian.  So far I have not been able to prove this.

Most researchers on the Estepp line think that Fannie is the Fannah Estepp listed in the 1850 Clay Co Census.If this is correct her father was Joseph Estepp, a Virginia farmer and her mother was Sally.

According to Joel Turner, Joel Estepp was James(Jim) Esteppe.  James was Joel's grandfather.

I am presently continuing research on this line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

K.

 

Reverend John Turner(Father of Grandpa Venison Turner)

Reverend John Turner (Born Dec 25, 1875 and died Jan 18, 1950).  He married Elizabeth Deaton Nov 17, 1892.  I (Ernest Turner) remember John when he was at our house at Blue Diamond and was sick and ready to die.  He called Brother Venison and I - Jesse and Frank James.

John was an old Regular Baptist.  One story is that he was "churched" for getting frisky with the widow women.  Did he do this?  Did he get back in their good graces?

Why did John leave Breathitt Co and settle on Cow Creek?  It may have had something to do with the Strong-Amis feud?

John is buried at Elsom in an unmarked grave.  His grave is at the bottom of the cemetery near where the preachers platform is.

John in his later life broke up housekeeping and lived with his friends and relatives until 

he died.    

After Elizabeth died and John married again, story is that his new bride said that Venison (Grandpa) had to go.

Venison told me that he and John didn't get along.  Venison left home and joined the army.

1900 Census, Cow Creek Precinct No 4, W.J. McGuire, 26 June 1900:

Household 266,

John Turner W            M            March 13, 1868            32            Married 10 Years

Lizzie                W            F            June 1868                31            Married 10 Years

Mother 51 Living

Sytha Ann      W            F            March 1888                12

Vincent            W            M            1890                            10            Son

Jane                 W            F            Sept 1895                4

Rubin               W            M            Jan 1897                3

 

1910 Breathitt Co Census HH 139-146

John Turner  37

Lizzie                43

Sitha A (Stepdaughter) 14

Vincent            15

Martha Jane     14

Rubin               12

Jesse                9

Nancy              7

Hala B            6

 


 

 

 

 

1920 Breathitt Co Census, Turners Creek  18-18

John                 47

Martha             50 (Second Wife)

Nancy             17

Hala Bell      14

Rubin               21

Jesse                19

Easter               17

Venison          24

Sarah               22

 

In 1920 Venison and Jesse apparently were living with John.  Marriage record of John and Elizabeth is attached.

John was known to ride the rafts down the river to Frankfort.  Venison said that he went several times.

About 5 months out of the year , especially in the spring and sometimes in the fall, mountain men would cut trees and make rafts from the logs.  When it rained a lot, they would "  "float" down the river with the tide to Frankfort where they sold their logs.  After selling their logs they had to walk back.  The runs started seriously in 1871.

There are many stories about these mountain men and their exploits.  Some took a fancy to factory made whiskey and bluegrass women.  Several were known "shoot up the place".  There was a running feud between the rafters and the citizens along the Kentucky river.  On the whole most were civilized and well behaved.

There were several places on the way back and the way down that they could "stay all night".

The North and South forkers went home by way of Winchester.  The Middle Forkers went home by way of Richmond.

In 1915, 15,000 logs per hour were said to have passed Jackson on the way to Frankfort.       

Today poplar, red oak, and walnut are trucked out since the locks and dams were built.

Grandpa Venison said he went with his Dad up and down Longs Creek on "Kneelboats".  These were small shallow boats that carried goods up the river to various businesses.

John had  sons  Jesse and Reuben who grew up and had children.  He also had a girl named Haley who married John Holland.  I have some information on Haley and John.  Most of their children grew up in the Combs area of Perry Co.  A good source of information on Venison's brother Jesse is Carol Barnett.  Her address is 2823 Laurel Drive, Hebron, Ky 41048.

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

Elizabeth Deaton (Venison's Mother)

 

Elizabeth Deaton was born May 10, 1872 and died Dec 25, 1911.  She is buried at the Squire Turner graveyard at Houston, Ky.

Most researchers think that Elizabeth was the daughter of John Simpkins and Sythia Caudill.  John Simpkins was raised by the Deatons.  he went by the name of John "Blue" Deaton.  "Blue" being slang for illegitimate.

Elizabeth may have had a daughter named Sythia before she married John.  She is listed above Grandpa Venison in the census record.

Elizabeth "Lizzie" Simpkins was raised by her mother Sythia Ann and her second husband Peter McIntosh.  Elizabeth may have used or been known by McIntosh.  Venison's brother Jesse and Venison's death certificates had her listed as Elizabeth Deaton. 

Most researchers accept Elizabeth's mother as Sythia Caudill, but several researchers are not convinced that John Simpkins was Elizabeth's father.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

L.

 

Reverend Venison Turner Oct 15, 1895-1979:

 

Venison Turner was the oldest child of John Turner and Elizabeth Deaton.  He stated that his birth was 1895.  When a local electric book ran a story about a snow in June of 1894, Venison stated that he remembers his parents telling him that he was born that year.  The Census records shows a Sythia Ann as older than Venison.  She was probably a child of Elizabeth before she married John.  Their marriage records shows that it was a first marriage for each.

Venison was born on Cow Creek in Owsley Co.  he was living in Owsley in 1900 but by 1910 he was back in Breathitt.

John later remarried after Elizabeth died and the story is that Venison had to leave before the woman would marry John.

Venison told  me that he remembers sleeping in the old house that was built in those days.  He said that he slept in the loft and remembers waking up in the winter with snow on his covers.

Venison joined the army in 1914 and served until 1917.  He took his training at Fort Sam Houston, Texas.

According to his discharge he was in the Quartermaster Corps.  He was not in any battles and did not go to Europe regardless of the stories he told.

Whether he help build the Panama Canal or not, I don't know.  Panama was considered part of the U. S. at the time and whether they would consider that outside of the U.S., I don't know.

After the war, instead of coming home, he stayed in Texas for a few years.  His dad was drawing a pension on him.  How he worked this, I don't know.  He stayed on a ranch in Texas with a childless couple.  They tried to get him to stay.  They said that they would give him the ranch after they died.  He told me that after he came back to Kentucky and married, he tried to get grandmother to go back to Texas with him.

He said that while in Texas, he kept thinking about a pine tree near the place where Sarah lived.

Some locals say that one day several years after the war, Sarah and her parents woke up one morning and found Venison "passed out drunk" on their front porch.  He gave up his drinking later in life.

He married Sarah Herald on November 5, 1919.

Census records show that Venison and Sarah and Jesse and his wife were living with John in 1920.

Venison and Sarah had 9 children.  Only 3 lived to be grown.

Venison mad a living working in the coal mines in Perry Co.

 He worked for the Blue Diamond Coal Company on First Creek in Perry County from 1933 until 1957.


Venison concluded his coal mining career by cleaning coal cars.  He would take a broom and shovel and clean the coal cars.  He had a German shepherd dog named Mike that stayed with him.  Mike bit Venison's boss one time when he tried to pick up some of Venison's tools.


Venison was a member of the Pentecostal Church.  He told me that after he joined the church, he didn't think he was ever going to get "the baptism of the Holy Ghost".  This is an experience that Pentecostals seek after getting saved.  It is usually accomplished by speaking in tongues.  He said he was sitting on a rock at the mouth of Elsom when the Spirit moved on him.

He went from church to church preaching and many times they had services at peoples houses.

After retiring from Blue Diamond Coal, Venison moved to Meadow Creek in Owsley County where he lived until his death.

He remarried after Sarah's death to Lovely Howard.  She lived several years after their marriage.   They resided on Kentucky route 30 just North of Booneville in a rented home. She is

 buried with Sarah on Elsom.  Venison left space between the two to be buried but before he died, he changed his mind.  He decided that he wanted to be buried on Turkey Creek (Houston-Squire Turner Graveyard), where his mother was buried.

Venison spent his last few years with me, my wife and his great-grandchildren.

After eating a good supper he went out on the front porch of my house and sat down.  My daughter, Anna, was riding her bicycle.  He said to her, "Be careful, my baby and don't wreck" and then he passed away peacefully.

Venison had 3 children that grew up.

His son, Willie, didn't have any children.

For anyone who wants a complete list of family members for Loretta and Charley, I have a separate book on this.  I have a page for each family member.  It is not entirely complete but most of the information is there.

Loretta has a complete listing of her family.

At the end of this section is:

Venison's Census Record

Venison and Sarah's marriage license

Venison's minister certificate

Venison's discharge

A list of Venison's children

A work record from Blue Diamond Coal Company

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

Mr. & Mrs. Venison Turner, November  6, 1919:

Houston, Ky

 

1.  Charlie                    B. June 24, 1921

D. Feb 21, 1994

 

2.  Walter                     B. June 14, 1923

D. Jan 16, 1925

 

3.  John                        B. May 8, 1926

D. Jan 25, 1931

 

4.  Willie                       B. Mar 5, 1928

D. May 7, 1991

 

5.  Reuben                    B. Jun 12, 1929

6.  Mose                      D. Jun 13, 1929 (Twins)

 

7.   James                     B. Aug 30, 1931 (Stillborn)

 

8.  Paul             B. May 23, 1933

D. Oct 29, 1934

 

9.  Loretta                    B. Apr 27, 1938

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

Sarah Herald

Sarah Herald was born June 5, 1897 and died June 4, 1968.  She was born on Turkey Creek to Walter Herald and Rebecca McIntosh.  Above the land that we own on Turkey Creek is the old chimney where Sarah was born.  She is buried on Elsom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Charley Turner (Jun 24, 1921 - Feb 21, 1994)

Charley Turner was born on Longs Creek in Breathitt County  very close to where you turn to go to Buckhorn, Ky on Ky route 28.  At that time this area was called Crockettsville.

He lived in this area as well as WolfCoal in another section of the county.  He moved to Perry Co with Venison and as soon as he was old enough to work in the mines, he quit school and went to work.

He worked mostly for Blue Diamond Coal Company.  He was a drill man.  Dr Wagers(the company doctor) had to sew up his jaw once as a result of the drill getting loose.  Charley worked over 20 years inside the mines.

He married Margaret Ann Campbell and lived with her until her death in 1987.  They were married May 28, 1943.  (See marriage license and certificate).  Charley and Margaret (Margie) had 12 children.   See chart (Heirs of Venison Turner and Sarah Herald).

Charley always told everyone that he was going to raise his own baseball team.  He raised his children up teaching them to play.  Most played just for the fun of it.   Clayton played Little League and High School ball.

Charley later moved to Owsley County when the UMWA pulled out of Blue Diamond

and the mine closed.  He still worked briefly for Blue Diamond after moving to Owsley Co,

 and worked at various jobs until he got old enough to draw his miner's pension and social security.  During the period he coached Little League baseball in Owsley Co. (See article by Deron Mays).  He received a Kentucky Colonel  commission for the little league work.

Charley worked for Townsend Tree Service, the "Happy Pappys", Booneville Water Plant and even worked in the mine  in Willie Herald's hollow.

During his work life he usually kept a large truck which he would haul scrap iron to Lexington but mostly to move people in and out of the Blue Diamond community.

After his retirement he devoted his time to picking up pop cans and taking care of his son Chester.

In case you didn't know, the money he picked up from pop cans were used to buy presents or give his children and grandchildren money for Christmas.

This is just a brief outline of  Charley's life.  More will follow in separate articles and stories that will be compiled and given to you later or put into the newsletter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

Margaret Ann Campbell:

The wife of Charley Turner and mother of their 12 children was born April 3, 1927 in Perry Co.She was the daughter of Bradley Eversole and Ann Coldwell.

Bradley was a teacher and  a Mason.  He was killed in a coal mine accident.

Marriage license show that Bradley was the son of Press Eversole and Rebecca Eversole.

After Bradley's death, Ann married Martin Fugate.  She took the name Campbell.

Census records show that Bradley was the grandson of Joseph Campbell and Emiline with their daughter Rebecca being Bradley's mother.  Rebecca and Press were probably never married.  This may be why Ann took the Campbell name.  Bradley may have took it after their marriage.  (See marriage certificates and census record).

Ann was the daughter of Johnnie and Elzie Colwell.  (See census record).

I recently got a whole packet of information about the Campbells from Dr Roy Kidd of Knott Co.  I have tried to piece the Campbell side of mother's family tree together from this information.  If any major changes are needed, we will revise it.

 

1900 Perry Co Census:

Name                           Born

Joseph Campbell            Aug 1837            Married 15 years

Emiline(Wife)    Sep 1839    10 children

Rebecca(Daughter)            Oct 1875            divorced (1 child)

Frank E.                     Apr 1877

Mack                           Jun 1883

Hardy                           Nov 1888

Bradley (Grandson)            Sep 1895

 

Bradley must be son of Rebecca.  She and Press were probably never married.  There were several Preston Eversoles, so I can't say which one was Bradley's father.

Boyd Campbell (Son of Ann Colwell Campbell), claims tha Life Magazine published a picture of Press Eversole on (or with) his mule and jug, around 1945.

 

Annie Colwell Born 1899 Perry Co  (Mom's mother)

Father - John Colwell 1863

Married Bradley Eversole Age 20

Annie 16, married Dec 1915 Grapevine, Ky

 

1900 Census

Annie Colwell  Born Perry Co

Father John Colwell 1873(Note:  Buried on Campbells Creek)

Mother Elzie 1876

 

1910 Census

Colwell, John 37  1st Marriage  Married 14 years  Wife 4 children, 4 children living

Elzie 34  1st Marriage


Anne 10 daughter

Ellen 8 daughter

Wooley 6 Son

Pearl 2 Son

 

 

CAMPBELL FAMILY TREE

 

 

1st Generation

 

John Campbell (Scotland)              John Couch

Mary Polly Boone

 

2nd Generation

 

Joseph Campbell (1763)

Polly Couch (1772)

 

3rd Generation

 

Frank Campbell (1802) NC              William Eversole

Margaret Williams(1804) NC           Serena Frain

 

4th Generation

 

Joseph Campbell 1841

Emoline Eversole 1844

 

5th Generation

 

Preston Eversole                                    Johnny Colwell

Rebecca Campbell                                   Elzie

 

6th Generation

 

Bradley Campbell(Note:  Buried in the Tunnel Hill Cemetery, between Second

Ann Colwell                    Creek and Campbells Creek)

 


7th Generation

 

Margaret Ann Campbell

Charley Turner